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Out of Iraq
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5:30
[Most of the other Iraqis] that I meet, they are either poor, or they are from the middle class, like me. They have the same feeling, the same sadness in their hearts. They have the same feeling of dissapointment. They want to go back home, but they can’t because of the security conditions. Nobody left Iraq until they have a direct threat from the militia or the gangs. Either their kids have been kidnapped, or their kids have been killed, or their husband has been imprisoned…and this experience forced them to leave Iraq.
Faiza Al-Araji 9:30
Part of the big picture is that Faiza will never get to see her home… I mean in terms of living there. I can’t imagine that she’ll ever be able to go back, just like the at least 2 million refugees whose number is only growing. I think you’ll have another crisis like you have with the Palestinians. This stateless group, unaccepted by the countries that they’re in, unable to return to their homes. Part of the larger threat of this, apart from the human tragedy is the fact that it’s going to destabalize the entire region. Jordan has already closed its border, but people are still coming in. {There} you have a million people. There’s a million in Syria, and they’re still pouring into Syria. A good parallel would be Congo, Rwanda and the Great Lakes District conflict from the 1990s, where eventually the refugees also become a nexus for violence, and you have roaming militias like with the Hutus.
Nir Rosen 12:25
In Iraq you’re targeted no matter what. For any number of reasons. If you’re Shia, if you’re Sunni, if you’re Christian. If you’re educated. If you worked for the previous regime. If you work for this regime. If you belong to any militia. If you’re an artist. If you’re different in any way.
Nir Rosen 16:55
The fact that they’re not recognized as refugees means that they have no guarantees. They have no way to educate their children, to get medical care, to work. In a sense they’re worse than the palestinian refugees, because they have no rights.
Nir Rosen 22:20
(On the Iraqis he’s been talking to ) They’re just shocked. They have no idea how they’re going to survive. They might have sold a car. They might have collected all the savings they could, and they’re running out, and they can’t work and they can’t send their kids to school… what’s really tragic about this- perhaps in comparison to other refugee crisis- is that this was a thoroughly industrialized society. So these people are taken from a very high standard of living (one that would be familiar to us) and reduced to absolutely nothing.
Nir Rosen
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